Don’t Pray for the Lost to be Saved – its not scriptural! (part 1: Paul)
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Again, the folks over at 3rdRace.org have produced an excellent podcast concerning the definition and nature of what some are calling the organic expression of the church.
I highly recommend that you go over there and listen to this new podcast and all future podcasts as well. By the way, if you don’t know, these are the people that Mary and I are training to be future church planters. They have years of experience in the organic expression of the church and I also recommend that you subscribe to their blog. You won’t be sorry!
Click below to listen to the latest podcast:
12 Wednesday Nov 2014
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inYou are invited to a very special organic church event in Northern California!
Jon Zens and Myself will be holding a special conference for those interested in organic church life in Northern California. The event will be held in Sonoma and will run April 3-4, 2015.
If you are involved with a group that is desirous of returning to the life and purpose we see in the New Testament, this event may be for you.
If you are an individual believer who is looking to connect with others who have this same desire in your area, this event may be for you.
For more information and registration click on the link below:
22 Wednesday Oct 2014
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inMany of you may not know that my wife Mary and I plant organic churches. We have been doing this for the last 20+ years. It’s been full-time for the last five years. We have planted New Testament style organic churches throughout this country (U.S.) and in Australia. We are also working with others to help see new groups established in Europe and Africa.
Recently, we have entered a new phase of this work and that is the training of new future church planters. This is very very exciting for us! For the last five months, four others have been with us as we plant a church in Northern California. This has been an incredible experience for all of us involved and we ALL are learning some very spiritual and practical lessons from this experience.
One of the desires of our hearts is to present these folks that we are training to you all, our readers. You will definitely enjoy their writings as well. They recently did their first podcast about them being trained and you can listen by going to this blog:
http://3rdrace.org/our-first-podcast/
Enjoy!!!
02 Thursday Oct 2014
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“Father, I desire that they also, whom You have given Me, be with Me where I am, so that they may see My glory which You have given Me, for You loved Me before the foundation of the world.” (John 17:24)
Here, in the Lord’s prayer to the Father, Jesus reveals the very heart of God for his Church. This is definitely the key to the Son’s glory, which was given to Him by the Father. First of all, we need to understand:
This glory is the goal of his prayer.
So, I think that we would do well to discover the essence of this “glory”.
What is the Glory of the Father and the Son?
If we look closely at this chapter of this gospel of John we will see some major points that are made throughout the prayer:
– mutual glorification (verse 1)
– authority (verse 2)
– eternal life (verse 2)
– knowing the Father and the Son (this is eternal life) (verse 3)
– accomplishing God’s work brings him glory (verse 4)
– glory is something that happens with the Father and the Son before creation (verse 5)
– God’s communication comes from the Father, through the Son to us (verse 8)
– everything is mutual within the Godhead (Trinity) (verse 10)
– the glory happens when there is oneness, which happens in the Name (verses 11-12)
– protection from the world and sending dependent upon oneness (verses 16-21)
– the glory has already been given to us for the oneness (verse 22)
– the oneness, which is based upon the love between the Father and Son, will be seen in the world (verse 23)
Now, we can combine these thoughts and get a birds-eye view of what God wants. There is a lot here, of course, but I am going to juice it down into one simple paragraph. (Tip – to see this more clearly, I suggest that you read John chapters 14-17 all the way through without stopping. This will give you a much clearer picture of God’s eternal purpose in Christ.)
The glory of God is the mutual fellowship (community life) that all three of the members of the Godhead share. This involves their mutual love, communication, attention, knowing one another, union, passion, dependency, giving and receiving, and much much more. All things within this community are mutual. They share all things, all content, all life, all love, all goals and vision, and all of the uniqueness that each one has. They share all things in common, you could say. Being three distinct Persons, they are completely one. This oneness of their life together is their glory. It is the source of their power, strength, and authority. Their goal is to share and express this glory with us! Yes, us, mere mortals! And the goal would include the expression (manifestation) of this incredible life to all realms; visible and invisible.
Wow!!! What a goal! What a purpose! What a vision and dream! Paul puts it this way:
“Of this church I was made a minister according to the stewardship from God bestowed on me for your benefit, so that I might fully carry out the preaching of the word of God, that is, the mystery which has been hidden from the past ages and generations, but has now been manifested to His saints, to whom God willed to make known what is the riches of the glory of this mystery among the Gentiles, which is Christ in you, the hope of glory.” (Col 1:25-27)
Do you see from this passage that the “mystery” is Christ in you, the hope of glory?
Do you also see from this passage the fact that Christ now lives in you (plural)?
This fact (reality) is the key to God getting what He wants. He cannot have the expression of His Son without this LIFE of the community of God being in us and being lived out in us and from us.
Being and Seeing
So now we come to the critical part of this prayer of Jesus to the Father. It’s the “how to” of him getting his glory revealed:
“Father, I desire that they also, whom You have given Me, be with Me where I am, so that they may see My glory which You have given Me, for You loved Me before the foundation of the world.” (John 17:24)
Being with Christ is the key to it all! Without the being there will be no seeing of the glory! Yes, that means being with and seeing He, Himself! And yet, all this time we have thought it was all about our prayer life and our bible study and our witness, and our church attendance, and our devotion to God!
Wow! How could we have missed the main point? Maybe because it is so simple and so basic that it actually insults our intelligence! We have to somehow figure it all out and then we will have something to boast about. But God has made it so simple. He just wants us to BE with Him!
It may be simple but it’s certainly not easy in this hyper actively complex world we live in. It’s not easy to simply get together with God and just BE with him. There are many obstacles and distractions that get in the way. It’s not easy to simply “be still and know that He is God” in a noisy and intrusive world system. But notice with me that your Lord deliberately hides himself away to be with the Father. He was very intentional about it. He knew that He could do nothing apart from the Father (John 5:19) and therefore He needed to be with Him. Do we realize this as well?
Where Do We Fellowship?
Isn’t it odd that Jesus prayed to the Father that his disciples would be with Me where I am? Wasn’t he right there standing (and praying) in front of them? Why would he pray that they would be where he is (present tense)? Have you ever wondered this?
I believe it’s because even though Jesus was with them in the flesh and in the natural world, he was also in another place simultaneously. That place was inside of the Father! I mean that quite literally, spiritually, but literally. He was both in the natural world AND in the heavenly places at the same time! How is this possible? It’s possible because Jesus (just like you and I) is made up of a spirit, a soul, and a body (1 Thess. 5:23). With his body and soul he functions on the earth, but with his spirit he functions in the heavenlies. In fact, he is The Door (ladder) between heaven and earth! See Genesis 28:12-17 and John 1:50,51 for further insight.
Paul tells us that we believers are now seated with Christ in the heavenly places:
“… even when we were dead in our transgressions, made us alive together with Christ (by grace you have been saved), and raised us up with Him, and seated us with Him in the heavenly places in Christ Jesus, so that in the ages to come He might show the surpassing riches of His grace in kindness toward us in Christ Jesus.” (Eph 2:5-7)
Sisters and brothers, do you see that this declaration is in the present tense? We are right now, currently, at this time, seated with Him in the heavenly places! This means that we (the Church) are also now in two places at the same time. Even though we are on the earth, he wants to be with us right now in the heavenly realms. He wants us to be with him and see him in that place that is not bound by space, time, measurement or anything else. You can turn to He, Himself who lives inside your spirit right now and see his glory.
May we all take this as our glorious occupation!
“… but whenever a person turns to the Lord, the veil is taken away. Now the Lord is the Spirit, and where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is liberty. But we all, with unveiled face, beholding as in a mirror the glory of the Lord, are being transformed into the same image from glory to glory, just as from the Lord, the Spirit.” (2Co 3:16-18)
19 Saturday Jul 2014
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This is our good brother and friend James in Australia. James is very happy because he has read our two newest books called New Day and The Gathering. If you are interested in knowing Christ in a deeper way and experiencing the organic expression of the Church you will definitely want to check out these two books!
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This book will show you how to write the gospel within the text and textures of your own life. Jesus Now stands as a challenge for each of us to move from numbers to narratives, from scorecards to storyboards, to have our lives become an ongoing provenance for the Jesus story, based on the authentics of the gospel.
The story of Jesus—past and present—is the food of discipleship.
Taste and see.
Leonard Sweet
E. Stanley Jones Chair in Evangelism, Drew University
Distinguished Visiting Professor, George Fox University