Myth #1 – Organic Church is a New Method for Doing Church
My co-workers and I sometimes hold organic church conferences throughout the country. These events are designed to do several things. One is to equip believers to be prepared to live “body life”. Another is to connect people together who are like-minded concerning organic church in their geographical area. These events are training and equipping events, they are not meant to be organic church meetings.
Most people come to these events planning on filling up their notebooks with all of the “how-to’s” of organic church. They are looking for the “method” of doing organic church. They are looking for a “system” whereby they can implement starting an organic church when they get home. They are expecting information that will help them to construct organic church life. All of those folks are surprised by the fact that they never receive anything like that at these events. Some go away very frustrated and even angry that this kind of content was never given to them. Others go away startled by something that shakes them to their very core.
What is the difference? Let me put it this way:
Some come as Nicodemus and leave as Nicodemus.
Others come as Nicodemus and leave as the Samaritan woman at the well!
The Difference Between Knowledge and Life
These two people (stories) show us the difference in approaches that people can take towards the Lord.
Nicodemus
“Now there was a man of the Pharisees, named Nicodemus, a ruler of the Jews; this man came to Jesus by night and said to Him, ‘Rabbi, we know that You have come from God as a teacher; for no one can do these signs that You do unless God is with him.’” John 3:1,2
We see here that Nicodemus came to Jesus on the level of a great teacher and miracle worker. Nicodemus was himself a well respected teacher among the Jews and was a Pharisee. He came to Jesus for knowledge. “Rabbi, we KNOW …”. He thought that he knew where Jesus was coming from and so he was looking for more knowledge so that he could implement a better “method” in his work. His heart was in the right place, in a sense. He wanted to help people. But he was still approaching the Lord on a totally irrelevant playing field. But before another word could come out of his mouth, the Lord totally switches the playing field. Nicodemus was approaching the Lord intellectually and in the realm of the soul-life. The Lord refuses to engage him on that level. So what does Jesus do?
He tells Nicodemus that he needs a NEW LIFE!
He (in essence) is telling Nic that it’s not about knowledge, it’s all about life. God’s life, eternal life, divine life, uncreated life. And that he will never understand anything that He is doing or saying until he has this life of God within him.
The Samaritan Woman
“Jesus answered and said to her, ‘If you knew the gift of God, and who it is who says to you, ‘Give Me a drink,’ you would have asked Him, and He would have given you living water.’” John 4:10
Here, the Lord again approaches this woman on the basis of life, His Life. She was definitely very thirsty. She had tried to quench her thirst by many other things such as her many husbands. We can see by reading the story that she was also very religious and traditional (by her referring to Jacob and the mountain). But none of those things had quenched her thirst. She needed Life! She needed the Living Water!
Why is it that we don’t come seeking life instead of more information and knowledge? Why don’t we come seeking Christ instead of other things? Organic church is really only about one thing – the Lord Jesus Christ Himself! It’s about His life and living by His life with a group of believers. How could it be about anything else?
Jesus Christ IS the Church!
R.C. Babione said:
I know that I once approached a conference looking for the “how-to’s”. What I received instead was an invitation to Life! Thank you so much for building with Christ and Christ alone. He is Life.
Love you, brother!
R.C.
Bobby said:
that was me, the guy looking for the formula when I came to Threshold. While I was not equipped in the way I expected and hoped for I have been equipped to go out and share life with others. It has become the beginning of some very great relationships. I’m happy to say that while we haven’t been planning and structuring a church gathering we have been planning and meeting as the church, sharing life, building our relationships and becoming more united in mind with Christ and with one another. Thanks Milt.
SYBIL said:
THANK YOU MILT, THANK YOU SO MUCH. KEEP WRITING – PLEASE. SYBIL
kaleymayer said:
Amen!! How beautifully said … Christ, Christ, Christ. All we need, all we want is Christ. I have known many who have read about organic/house church and gone to the conferences looking for the how to do organic church. This has always greatly disturbed me …. we’re looking forward to coming for the first time next year! Coming for Christ
Nathan said:
Wow great insight presented to understandale. To want one thing, Jesus Christ. Amen.
Tobias Valdez said:
Great post Milt!
I am so thankful for the work of the Lord in and through you and Mary. Our lives are forever changed as He continues to build His Church. Thank you for being a vessel of Truth.
angconley said:
And He became a Life-giving Spirit…
Well said, Milt.
AnDraea said:
“Jesus Christ IS the Church”
This statement always makes me uncomfortable (I’ve heard it other places as well), because it might make some readers think that you are imputing divinity to the Church. I know that corporately, we, the Body of Christ are one with the Lord, partaking in the Divine Nature, and that we are His expression in the earth. But isn’t there a difference between the Lord being one with His Church and actually being His Church?
But overall this has been a great read. I especially appreciate the comparison/contrast of Nicodemus and the woman at the well. Thanks and I’ll be reposting this to my facebook page.
Michael Fleming said:
Andraea –
“isn’t there a difference between the Lord being one with His Church and actually being His Church?”
Yes, the first place to look for the characteristics of the relationship between Christ and the Church is Adam and Eve before the Fall. Think about their relationship. She was taken out of Him and shared His DNA. She shared his name (until the Fall). She was Adam in a different form. She was an extension of him. She carried his perfection. So yes, while the Bride is distinctly different, she is also distinctly the same as Christ.
Bruce Dickey said:
Milt, you may wish to go further in the look at Nicodemus. As Joseph of Arimithea was requesting Jesus’ body from Pilate, Nicodemus gathered linens and a hundredweight of spices. The two of them, obvious disciples of their Messiah, prepared his body for burial in proper tradition, fit for a King. Nicodemus was doing more than seeking knowledge, he was acting on his faith in who Jesus was. Cheers.
miltrodriguez said:
Bruce,
I was in no way putting down good ole Nicodemus. But my point still holds regardless. He was a great man in Israel and that’s why the Lord used him to show us the great transition from the old to the new, from teaching to life, and from learning laws and principles to learning a Person; the living Christ Himself!
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